peter3941
Dec 22, 2017

Proposed Routing

7 comments

Air Journey has proposed this route, link here: https://www.wacoaircraft.com/trip

 

Email From Thierry

"Dear Peter,

Please find attached (Link: https://www.wacoaircraft.com/trip) the latest presentation of the journey. We are setting up a departure on October 20 which should be after the height of the hurricane season.

I’ve made changes to the program based on avgas availability and distance as well as your email regarding the flight to San Andrea island in the Caribbean.

We are within 27 days on the program and I’m getting ready to create the budget as well as a flyer describing the journey. But I have more questions.

After our stay in Belize, we have to fly to Cozumel, Mexico, to refuel and clear customs and spend one night. Then the next day we could do Cozumel to Key West which is about 375 nautical miles or we can make a technical stop in Havana to refuel. Let me know your preference.

In the revision of the program, I removed the country of El Salvador which does not offer the safety and political environment for our journey. They are listed by the State Department as a place of high crime. I have replaced it with the airport of Guatemala City for us to transfer by land to the old capital of Antigua, Guatemala which is a pretty unique place to visit. Would a landing at an elevation of 5,000’ (Guatemala City airport) be a problem?

The following stop will be at the beautiful resort of Mukul in Nicaragua on the Pacific side where at this time there is no avgas. How comfortable would the pilots be to fly a leg of 325 nautical miles, not refuel, and fly another 60 nautical miles to the next airport in Costa Rica with avgas? If it’s too high for their comfort level, we can add a technical stop between Guatemala City and Mukul to refuel.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Tail Winds and Blue Skies Always.

Thierry

Thierry Pouille Air Journey - Founder Tel: +1.561.841.1551 Cell: +1.561.452.1225 Escorted Flying Journey, Air Concierge & Personalized Flight Support www.AirJourney.com

stearmansam
Jan 3, 2018

Not to start my first post on a negative but if we’ can’t get a few owners to take their airplane to Michigan in the summer why would they undertake a trip like this? But that being said, I would be extremely interested in a trip like this. I like the idea of splitting the trip across two months. Easier to get off work. I think with this much advance notice you can count on myself and serial number 41.

 

Sam Lipscomb

peter3941
Jan 4, 2018

This trip idea was formed after the U2U group 'down selected" several waco owners who had expressed interest and in a few cases actually placed deposits. Moving forward we need to determine what kind of experience we are looking for. Air Journeys proposed trip is a starting point for discussions. For me and a few others the currently proposed trip is too much focus on lux hotels, while nice hotels are fine I would like to add to the flying days and greatly increase the culturally interesting /smaller towns and try to avoid the big jet airports.

stearmansam
Jan 8, 2018

i agree with you. the purpose of this trip should be "off the beaten path" so to speak. I like the idea of seeing places by small airplane that you wouldnt otherwise see when travelling by major cities. But with that being said, I'm not sure how comfortable i feel about a lot of over water flying. i suppose the best way to do it in a single engine airplane is with a group but Im not sure how I feel about that aspect of the trip yet. what does everyone else think?

stearmansam
Mar 10

ANY consideration being given to this flight still?

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Aug 21

An air journey is fantastic and enjoyable for the persons. The facilities of the flight and paper cheap are approved for the passengers in the flight. It is opened for the brick paces for the citizens. Air travel is expensive as well for the participants of the field.

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  • peter3941
    18 hours ago

    Dear Peter, I’m in the stage of checking on avgas availability at the different airports as well as checking the Department of State recommendations for the different countries. We have to make some changes. One of my questions for you is I am offering the idea of flying to the island of San Andres which belongs to the country of Colombia. It is an island. We can fly straight from Panama due north for 260 nautical miles to reach the island and when we depart, there would be a stretch of water before reaching the coast of Honduras and flying to the next stop. How do your members feel about flying in an open cockpit 2.5 hours over water not near any land? If you think that’s bringing the comfort level to an unchartered territory, would you like me to replace that stop and rework the program? Tail Winds and Blue Skies Always. Thierry
  • Tom Solano
    7 days ago

    We should quickly reach agreement on the dates for the trip, Peter had suggested September/October 2018. I can make that work however it may be risky given the increased rate of hurricanes occurring and those dates being in the middle of hurricane season. The ideal time for this trip would be springtime. The downside of this is that it would push the trip to 2019 since it would be unreasonable to try to make all the logistics work by Spring 2018.

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